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How to Splice a Joist or Rafter
Submitted by Ray Thornburg on Thu, 11/09/2017 - 19:14
How to Properly Splice a Joist or Rafter
About Splicing Wood
We'll begin our discussion by reminding everyone that carpenters have been splicing wood together for thousands of years. It's one of the things carpenters do best but still there are those who say that this is the purvue of an engineer and no one else. Headers, jacks, sills, beams, girders rafters, are all spliced together in one way or another. The fact is that there are many things carpenters do that are allowed because we all know they work. This is called prescriptive solutions. Of course we're talking about splicing a joist or rafter as part of a repair technique for a rotted, termite damaged or over spanned joist. Sometime we just need a longer piece of wood (like a hip king rafter).
Whatever the reason the secret to a good splice is the connection method and good workmanship. The connection method has to be so good that the separate units will act as one; unless a whole unit is substituted or “sistered up”. This discussion is not intended to give credence to any particular splicing project and can not substitute for proper engineering analysis but is only intended to help guide carpenters as to the proper concepts and best practices for proper splicing procedures. Every project is different and has their own particular load bearing criteria which may necessitate different methods, additional support or even engineering analysis. Comments to this blog is encouraged.
At left is a diagram of some inappropriate repair techniques. Crawlspaces can be tight and uncomfortable to work in so the temptation for shortcuts and substandard workmanship is common. Lack of experience plays a part. Supervisors are often reluctant to review their employees work. Whatever the reason substandard repairs can be structurally deficient. Most common causes is lack of proper nailing technique and splicing to compromised wood.
The most common way joists are repaired is to “sister” it up. Essentially sliding a whole member beside it and nail the heck out of it from both sides with a lot of nails). If the new sister bears on wood at least 1.5” on each end then you're good to go. The most common “mistakes” in this method would be not nailing the sisters together good enough, inadequate bearing on one side or another,
The truss companies use a “gang-nail” to splice wood together (pictured at left). A gang-nail is basically a thin piece of metal stamped out so that many metal tangs stick out into the wood about a 1/2” or so. It is stamped into the wood at the factory with a hydrolic press.
Plywood can be used to accomplish the same thing and for many years many carpenters made their own job built trusses using plywood as the gusset This practice fell by the wayside mostly because manufactured trusses came down in price. Also contractors could not be sure their workers were experienced enough to do this properly and so opted for engineered wood for liability reasons.
Pictured at left is a 2x6 rafter spliced together using 3/4” plywood. Very strong connection. In this case the rafter as a whole is actually stronger than it would have been because the splice is more than adequate and the plywood adds to the strength. In this case the framer just needed a longer rafter. Use your common sense when deciding how many fasteners are needed. Splitting the wood does no good. In this case the framer used 9- 8d nails on each side of splice which is adequate in this case.
Pictured at left is a diagram of some recommend prescriptive repair techniques for floor joists. Some allowances can be made on the length and thickness of the plywood gussets to suit your particular needs. While it is prudent to “over engineer” your repair; it may be acceptable to use 1/2” plywood or a somewhat shorter gusset depending on your circumstances. The strength of the connection is dependent on the shear strength of the nails so use plenty (driven straight and not slanted). Do not use screws because most are not rated for structual applications. If the repair was engineered then the repair technique would be drawn out on paper, stamped with the engineers approval stamp and it would list the number and type of fasteners needed.
Pictured is joist repair method for end rotted joist using plywood and some suggestions for best practice. Click the image to enlarge. Splicing with plywood can have some advantages over splicing with a solid joist in many situations. Use common sense when deciding how many fasteners to use. Use an adequate amount however it does no good to split the wood with too many.
So when is splicing only on one side acceptable? For example in most of the examples above a short joist is filled in and spliced on both sides with sound wood. This helps relieve compression and tension forces resulting from loads imposed. Sometimes it's ok only to splice on one side for example when adding rafter tails to rafters that already bear on the top plate. Another example that could be ok is adding to the top of a rafter that is too short because the contractor ordered lumber which is 8" too short. In these case the load imposed are not very much for the amount of fasteners typically needed to make such a splice work so would be ok in most circumstances.
Floor loads however are greater so we would discourage the temptation to only splice on one side. This should be evaluated on a case by case basis but if it absolutely has to be done then nail it with plenty of nails from both sides (not slanted) and with plenty of overlap.
In the field I noticed a lot of workmen cut a sister short on one side or another to get it to fit between the 2x2 ribbons. It would be better to remove the ribbon, install the sisters and replace with new ribbons so the sister has adequate bearing on both sides. It might actually be easier this way. Resist the temptation to reuse the old ribbon as it is probably too chopped up to do any good by the time it's removed.
Fixing a Sagging Subfloor
Often we're presented with a situation where the subfloor has gotten wet from a leak or has a weak spot. When replacing the subfloor is not practical like when cabinets are in the way etc. then adding blocking from underneath can help. Picture at left shows how to easily fix a sagging subfloor. You're want to cut some 1x2 cleats, measured down the appropriate distance attach it, slide the block in, jack it up with a floor jack or car jack, install the other cleat, add fasteners into blocking as needed. Repeat as needed. This method is suggested because trying to push the subfloor up with one hand and nailing it with another is almost impossible especially if you want your floor flush.
Replacing A Girder
Up till now we've only talked about repairing a joist or a rafter. How about when we need to repair a girder or sill. For the most part you cannot sister a sill or a girder because you cannot sister to compromised wood. This is also because loads are resting directly on the girder. Girders and Sills should be replaced when they rot or have termite damage. Some people will try to hide the rotted board by placing a nice treated piece in front of it or sometimes even under it. Then they will run joists to it like the rotted girder doesn't exist. This is poor practice at the very least. Whenever possible rotted girders should be replaced with new wood. I think where people run into problems then they're not thinking outside the box as far as how to replace the damaged pieces. Girders do not have to be dimentional lumber. They can be engineered lumber or smaller members glued or nailed together to form larger component.
Now let's see what we find out in the field....
In this picture the framer did a good job making the job built trusses but failed miserably on nailing the gussets. Seems he only nailed the gussets on one side thinking the nails were long enough to penetrate the other piece or maybe he just got lazy. As you can see they are coming apart and so the truss could fail. The gussets should be face nailed from both sides.
Here is a pathetic attempt to splice some floor joists under the bathroom. The long view makes the overlap seem longer but I believe the nearest one is less than a foot with very few nails. Drooping and joist sag can be seen in the photo. Believe it or not this kind of poor workmanship is not that uncommon. It would have been easy to do it right, but they chose not to.
Written by Ray Thornburg.
Comments to this blog are welcome.
Comments
Without seeing it, it's hard to say but probably splicing it with plywood on both sides would be fine and probably stonger. No need to use screws or bolts. Pepper 8D sinkers on both sides is usually ok. If you want to glue it then that's even better. Most screws are not rated for structural applications as they will tend to snap in half so just use 8D sinkers. Use a palm nailer if the space is tight so the nails go straight in. Good luck to you!
Thank you for your question. As long as there is enough overlap and the two boards act as one you're probably ok. With the glue and the structural fasteners it sounds like you have a good handle on the situation. Good luck.
Thank you for reading my article and for your question. I can't tell you exactly how many nails are needed for each situation as I'm not an engineer. I just know what works. The key is that the spliced unit must act as one member (as strong as the original member or stronger). There are a lot of variables involved......Such as
The APA (American Plywood Association) has a large library of articles that may help with this. Here is the link to their website
https://www.apawood.org/publication-search?q=wind&tid=1
If they can't help I'm sure somebody has done some testing in reguards to this...maybe ASTM.
Common issues with splicing is inadequate number of fasteners and not driving the fasteners straight.
Anyway I know this doesn't help much but good luck to you anyway...
Thanks for the question, however I can't advise you on that for several reasons. First I really don't have enough info but second it's an engineered product and trusses are not supposed to be cut. If they are cut or broken then an engineer from the truss company has to write up a repair method. You should follow the repair instructions and staple it to the side of the truss in case the repair is questioned in the future. If you don't know who made the trusses then a stuctural engineer could probably do it for you. However if you had no choice and absolutly had to repair a truss without the advise of an truss engineer, then avoid screws. Most type of screws are not suitable for structural application because the tensile strenth of them is such that they tend to snap in half easily. Use regular framing nails like 8D sinkers. Follow the design that the trusses were originally manufactured in as close as possible. Regular plywood is an excellant gusset material. Hope this helps....
You make some good suggestions.....It's never easy, start with the skilsaw, then then sawsaw, then the oscillating saw is as good a suggestion as I've seen. Maybe some day someone will invent a type of oscillating band saw that cuts a joist clean through from underneath the floor. The idea about cutting the nails with the oscillating saw is a good idea too. That way you can fit the joist tight. If you glue the top edge of the replacement joist with construction adhesive before it is put in place it will help adhere the subfloor to the joist and help prevent a squeak in the floor later on.
Thanks for your question which is actually a good question. When done correctly the splced part is as strong or stronger than the original so where it is spliced shouldn't be a concern unless a concentrated load is expected to be on it (like a hot tub). I have never used the plywood splicing technique in an outdoor environment. In theory at least if treated plywood is used and if it is properly rated, it could work. However even treated wood is not as good as it used to be 20 years ago. So while it could work I have no proof or experience that it would in an outdoor environment so for that reason I would opt for complete replacement of the joists or a full length sister. The choice is yours however. As a side note don't assume screws are better than nails. Most screws are not rated for structural applications (they're brittle and snap under load). Also avoid rang shank for structural apllications.
There is no advantage to putting a fancy angle on it....just a square cut is fine.....and if you're working in a crawlspace that's probably the only cut that's practical......thanks for reading my article and good luck with your project...
LOL....marriage counseling is beyond the scope of a standard home inspection....however....I think what you need is a board stretcher......look on EBAY....they have everything....
Yep.....You're on the right track.....fill it in and put plywood on both sides...
Thank you for your question. It sounds like your roof is trusses judging from the 2x4 ceiling joist spanning 14'. Trusses are designed for a little bit of light storage and many people just throw a piece of plywood up there so they would have a place for their Christmas tree etc. and be done with it. If the area is insulated it is not uncommon to build up the floor (ceiling joist of truss) so as not to compress the insulation. Yes adding and properly nailing wood together does strengthen it and splicing that 2x6 would probably be ok. Of course since I can't see your project its had to say for sure what would be acceptable but if you're not storing engine blocks, water heaters or lumber up there you're probably be fine. Hope this helps.....
Thank you for your question....as you know most trusses allow for a little bit of light storage anyway....if you're planning on more then you're have to beef it up so to speak which is what it sounds like you have in mind. My thought is that single ply 2x8's won't span 20'. So if you're splicing two pieces together with plywood it will make a longer piece but the span rating will not be longer than a 2x8 would be rated for normally. A 2x8 spanning 20 foot will sag under it's own weight over time. Alterations to a trusses is generally not allowed but you can nail lumber to the side of trusses already in place. It probably won't improve it's designed rating because that would require an engineer, however it won't make it weaker. Hope this helps....
Thank you for your question. It sounds like you're asking if you can build a beam or joist in place with shorter pieces spliced with plywood. In most cases yes but remember the built up single member piece will probably not be stonger than a single member full length piece. Probably the best glue to use would be waterproof type elmers wood glue that they sell in one gallon jugs at the hardware store. If you don't have that then construction adhesive will work too. Hope this helps....
I have sucessfully spliced rafters using plywood on both sides glued and nailed many times. If done correctly it does not matter where the splice is...in most cases....If you're going to sister a rafter to make it longer it's probably better to sister it at the top. Of course this is not a blanket statement as there are too many variables involved like the projected load or other bracing for instance. Hope this helps.....Ray
Yes....examples given are typically regular 2x dimential lumber. I'm not sure if steel plates would work, every case is different and there would be too many variables to comment on (thickness of the metal for instance). They do make a variety of metal connective hardware and you would have to look at the listing on the hardware to see if it is approved for a particular use. Hope this helps...
Thank you for your kind words...In answer to your question....it is heard to give advice on any particular situation without seeing it because what I imagine you're talking about and what you have planned may be two totally different things. In general however regualr framing nails are ok to use like 16D sinkers or 8D sinkers. If using a hanger try using hanger nails. Deck screws are not recommended because they will snap in half under a load. Same is true of rang shank nails. Structural screws are ok (check the listing). Screws can be used to "pull" the wood together and then you can finish it off with nails.....if space is limited you can use a palm nailer. Drive the nails straight (no slanted fasteners). If you're building up a beam from fresh wood three nails on seams and stagger 8 inches on center should be adequate for most situations. If you're sistering damaged wood don't be stingy on the nailing pattern....hope this helps....Ray
Thank you for your question. Properly repairing a TJI joist would require a written detail from the truss company about how it should be done. This is because you are repairing their product. So their engineer should specify exactly how the repair should be made and how many and the type of fasteners to be used. So to recap...their product is an engineered product so it will take an engineered solution to fix it. Could it be fixed through prescriptive means....maybe....Typically we do like to see bearing on both sides of at least an inch and a half. Maybe a ledger could be installed. But really there are too many variables involved to make a determination sight unseen. You do have some valid concerns however.....Good luck to you...
Thanks for your question. If I understand correctly and I'm not sure from the wording of the question, but it sounds like you want to make a long joist out of shorter pieces or either you're trying to make a laminated beam to support a load. In the old days carpenters would make their own laminated beams with plywood and glue nailed together. This practice fell to the wayside over legal concerns because in reality this aspect would fall under engineering analysis. Even when there is an engineered drawing showing how it is to be built carpenters often do not follow the instruction to the T. The same would be true if you wanted longer joists to cover a certain span. Many lumber companies and Truss manufactures do offer engineered girders etc. and will calculated the beam design to support certain design loads for you. Then they're sell you the correct lam beam or truss for your needs. Anyway I hope this helps.....
Thank you for your kind words and for your inquiry. It sounds like you have a good grasp on what's going on. I couln't be sure about your last question however. I actually like the pvc flashing as long as it's going to be covered up or painted. PVC is resistant to salts which are often found in treated wood. These salts can eat up galvanized and metal flashing. PVC flashing can be bent on a metal break if needed.
So essentially you just need longer members and you want to know if you can splice the wood together with plywood to form a longer unit.....Yes....you can successfully splice 2x8 rafters with 3/4 plywood strips 32" long nailed and glued on both sides in most cases. To me plywood is preferable than sistering with a similar member because plywood is extremely strong in the vertical position and won't crack like real wood. As long as you're not exceeding the original span rating for the lumber you're using you should be fine. Hope this helps....Ray
Thank you for your question....I don't believe there would be any advantage to using carrage bolts. Don't use normal deck or sheetrock screws as they are not rated for structural applications. They now make some structural screws (make sure they are listed and labeled for that use). Typically normal 8D sinkers are good enough. Use a palm nailer if space is limited. Depending on the load above....you might be better off with 32" pieces of plywood. The glue is a good idea. Hope this helps....Ray
Thank you for reading and that is a good question. I prefer to use plywood rather than OSB because in my tests plywood has proven superior for this use...though my tests are not in any way scientific. As far as plywood grades is concerned any plywood graded for use on roofs (typically 1/2") or floor (typically 3/4") will work fine. These types of plywood is generally already on the jobsite (at least they used to be before OSB came along). and are easy to work with and relatively cheap. They also have some exterior glue in them which will make them more suitable and durable than interior grades. I would avoid interior grades of plywood.
Thank you for your question....it sounds like you're asking if you can take two pieces of lumber and splice them to act as one without losing strength. The answer is yes in most cases if you use real plywood to splice the two pieces on both sides and nail appropriately. Avoid making the joint in the center 1/3 of the span. Make sure your joist is straight because once you splice it this way it cannot be repositioned. The splicing material would not have to have bearing if the replacement is the same size as the original lumber. Hope this helps....
Thank you for your question.....I see two problems insufficient nailing and not nearly enough overlap. It should have enough overlap to make the unit act as one. If the break is in the center of the span it's going to need a lot of overlap to keep it from sagging later. Hope this helps....Ray